Thursday, April 10, 2025

Ep.38 - Stop Studying. Start Speaking!

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Stop Studying. Start Speaking!

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Alex: Hi everyone, welcome back to Effortless English Podcasts.

Alex: I'm Alex.

Luna: And I'm Luna.

Alex: Today, our topic is: Why do many people still struggle to speak English after years of study?

Luna: This is something so many learners ask all the time.

Alex: Right. People go to school, take classes, memorize words…

Alex: But when it’s time to talk, they freeze.

Luna: Or they just smile and say, “My English is not good.”

Alex: Sounds familiar, right?

Luna: Super familiar. I’ve heard it like a million times.

Alex: The truth is, it’s not about how long you’ve studied.

Alex: It’s about how you study.

Luna: Exactly. Some people study five years and still can’t speak.

Luna: Others study one year and can have a real talk.

Alex: So what’s going wrong?

Luna: And how can we fix it?

Alex: We’ve looked at research, real learner stories, and tested methods.

Luna: And we’re going to break it all down for you today.

Alex: But before we start, just a quick note.

Luna: We know some of you like to read along.

Alex: So we’ve got a full script for today’s episode.

Luna: You can find the link in the description.

Alex: Plus, we also offer subtitles in many languages.

Luna: If you need them, just turn on the CC.

Alex: And of course, don’t forget to subscribe to our channel.

Luna: Because you don’t want to miss fun talks like this one.

Alex: Alright, ready to jump in?

Luna: Let’s go!



Alex: So let’s talk about why this happens.

Alex: Why do people study for years but still can’t speak English?

Luna: First, let’s look at how most people learn English.

Alex: Good idea. In many schools, the focus is reading and grammar.

Luna: Tons of grammar! And tests. So many tests.

Alex: Yeah. You learn how to pass exams, not how to talk.

Luna: I remember in school, we read books and filled in blanks.

Alex: But no one practiced speaking.

Luna: Exactly. We didn’t even do pair talks in class.

Alex: So the brain gets used to reading rules, not real use.

Luna: And when you want to talk, your brain gets stuck.

Alex: Right. You start thinking, “Is this past tense? Should I use ‘did’ or ‘was’?”

Luna: While native speakers just say what’s in their mind.

Alex: That brings us to the second problem—fear.

Luna: Oh yes, the fear of being wrong.

Alex: People don’t want to make mistakes.

Alex: They think others will laugh or judge.

Luna: I’ve seen students say nothing just because they’re scared.

Alex: But mistakes are part of learning.

Luna: Babies make mistakes all the time when they learn to talk.

Alex: That’s true. They don’t care, they just keep trying.

Luna: Adults overthink. They want to speak perfectly.

Alex: But perfect doesn’t help you speak.

Luna: It just keeps you silent.

Alex: And there’s one more big reason—lack of speaking practice.

Luna: Many learners only hear and read English.

Alex: But they never use it. No speaking, no writing.

Luna: Like watching a dance video every day but never moving.

Alex: Great example. Your body won’t learn the steps.

Luna: Same with your mouth and English.

Alex: If you don’t speak, your brain won’t build the habit.

Luna: I met a guy who watched English shows for 10 years.

Alex: Let me guess—he could understand, but not talk?

Luna: Yup. He said, “I know what they say, but I can’t answer.”

Alex: That’s input without output.

Luna: So we need both.

Alex: We also need a reason to speak.

Luna: Like making new friends, or needing English for work.

Alex: Motivation changes everything.

Luna: If you love K-pop, maybe you’ll want to talk to fans.

Alex: If you work in tech, maybe you want to join meetings.

Luna: No reason = no action.

Alex: No practice = no progress.

Luna: But the good news is, it can be fixed.

Alex: And that’s what we’ll talk about next.



Alex: Let’s dig into some science.

Luna: Oh no, are we going full nerd mode now?

Alex: Just a little. It’s actually super interesting.

Luna: Fine. But keep it simple, okay?

Alex: Deal. Let’s start with Krashen’s Input Hypothesis.

Luna: That’s the “listen a lot first” idea, right?

Alex: Kind of. He said language is learned by understanding messages.

Alex: Not by learning rules.

Luna: So, more listening, less grammar drills?

Alex: Exactly. He called it “comprehensible input.”

Luna: Which means stuff you can understand, even if it’s hard.

Alex: Right. You should understand most of it, but still learn something new.

Luna: Like watching a show with easy talk but some new words.

Alex: Yes. Or listening to podcasts like this one.

Luna: Nice plug.

Alex: Thanks. But here’s the catch. Input is not enough.

Luna: Why not? If I listen enough, shouldn’t I speak better?

Alex: Not always. Speaking needs output practice too.

Alex: And that’s where the affective filter comes in.

Luna: Affective what now?

Alex: It’s Krashen’s idea. When you’re nervous or stressed, you learn less.

Luna: Ohhh, like when I panic and forget everything?

Alex: Exactly. Your brain blocks input when you feel scared.

Luna: That’s so real. I blank out in job interviews.

Alex: That’s language anxiety. It’s a real thing.

Alex: Studies show it lowers speaking performance.

Luna: Even if you know the words?

Alex: Yup. Fear shuts down fluency.

Luna: So it’s not just about practice. It’s also about feeling safe.

Alex: Right. A relaxed brain learns better.

Luna: I totally get that. When I felt judged in class, I didn’t talk.

Alex: But when you're with friends, words just flow.

Luna: Or when I talk to my dog. He never judges me.

Alex: I mean, that works too.

Luna: So it’s not that we don’t know. It’s that we block ourselves.

Alex: Yes. Mental blocks are real.

Luna: I once tried to speak to a tourist and froze.

Alex: That happens. But if you keep trying, it gets easier.

Luna: You have to fail to get better.

Alex: And fail without fear.

Luna: So, how do we lower that fear?

Alex: Small steps. Safe places. Friendly partners.

Luna: And fun topics.

Alex: That helps too. Learning doesn’t have to feel like school.

Luna: It should feel like real life.

Alex: Exactly. And next, we’ll look at the myths that stop people from doing just that.



Alex: Alright, now let’s bust some myths.

Luna: Oh, I love this part.

Alex: Myth number one: The more words you know, the better you speak.

Luna: Ugh, I used to believe that!

Alex: Many people do. They try to memorize long word lists.

Luna: I had a notebook full of big words.

Alex: And how much did you use them in real life?

Luna: Zero. Not even once.

Alex: That’s the point. Knowing 5,000 words means nothing if you can’t use 500 well.

Luna: So fewer words, more practice?

Alex: Yes. It’s about high-frequency words.

Luna: Like “get,” “make,” “go,” “want”…

Alex: Exactly. The top 1,000 words cover most of daily English.

Luna: And they’re easier to use in conversation.

Alex: Right. Learn them deeply. Use them often.

Alex: Don’t just collect words.

Luna: Got it. Myth two?

Alex: “You should train all skills equally: listening, speaking, reading, writing.”

Luna: Sounds good, but…

Alex: In real life, that’s not how we use language.

Luna: Yeah. I don’t write essays at the coffee shop.

Alex: Or read news while talking to friends.

Luna: So if I want to talk, I should focus more on speaking?

Alex: Yes. Choose based on your goal.

Luna: Makes sense.

Alex: You can still read and listen, of course.

Luna: But don’t split your time just to be “balanced.”

Alex: Exactly. If speaking is hard, then speak more.

Luna: I wish someone told me this earlier.

Alex: Here’s another common trap: using the wrong tools.

Luna: Like what?

Alex: Apps that teach only flashcards or grammar drills.

Luna: Or ones that test you more than train you.

Alex: Right. If you only memorize single words, you miss context.

Luna: Like learning “apple” but never saying, “I want an apple.”

Alex: That’s it. You need full sentences.

Luna: So sentence patterns are better than word lists?

Alex: Way better. Sentences show how words really work.

Luna: I once watched a drama and copied the lines.

Alex: Great method. You learn how people really talk.

Luna: And it’s fun too.

Alex: Learning should be fun.

Luna: So to review: Stop hoarding words, stop splitting skills, stop using bad tools.

Alex: And start using smart, simple ways.

Luna: We’re not done yet though.

Alex: No, now we share our own stories.

Luna: Get ready to hear how we failed and got better.



Alex: So now it’s story time.

Luna: Oh yes. Time to expose ourselves.

Alex: I’ll go first. I tried to learn Spanish a few years ago.

Luna: Wait, you never told me that.

Alex: Yeah, because it was a mess.

Alex: I started with apps and flashcards.

Alex: I memorized 1,000 words in two months.

Luna: Sounds intense.

Alex: Yeah, but I couldn’t order food in Spanish.

Luna: Wait, what?

Alex: I went to a Mexican restaurant.

Alex: Looked at the waiter and forgot everything.

Luna: Classic.

Alex: That’s when I realized—knowing words is not enough.

Luna: What did you do next?

Alex: I changed methods.

Alex: I started shadowing podcasts.

Luna: That’s repeating what you hear, right?

Alex: Yes, word for word, in real time.

Alex: It was hard, but after two weeks, I felt progress.

Luna: Wow, that’s fast.

Alex: I also joined a Spanish chat group.

Alex: We met twice a week, just to talk.

Luna: So you forced yourself to speak.

Alex: Pretty much. At first, I made a lot of mistakes.

Luna: But you kept going.

Alex: And now I can hold a basic conversation.

Luna: That’s awesome.

Alex: Your turn.

Luna: Okay, my English journey started in high school.

Luna: I loved English songs and movies.

Luna: But I was scared to speak.

Alex: You? Scared?

Luna: I know, shocking. But true.

Luna: I always worried about my accent.

Luna: And my classmates laughed when I made mistakes.

Alex: That sucks.

Luna: So I stayed quiet for a long time.

Luna: Then I watched a drama where the lead girl was super confident.

Luna: Even with broken English, she just spoke her mind.

Alex: And that inspired you?

Luna: Totally. I started mimicking her lines.

Luna: I’d pause, repeat, act it out in front of the mirror.

Alex: Drama queen.

Luna: It worked, okay?

Alex: I’m impressed.

Luna: After that, I joined a fan forum.

Luna: We chatted about shows, all in English.

Alex: So fun beats fear.

Luna: Every time.

Alex: I think the key is doing what feels real and fun.

Luna: Not just what books tell you.

Alex: We both had to fail first.

Luna: But failure led to growth.

Alex: And here we are, sharing that with you.

Luna: So if you’re stuck, don’t worry.

Alex: We’ve been there too.

Luna: And you can get out.

Alex: Up next, let’s talk real steps.



Alex: Alright, now we get to the good stuff—real steps.

Luna: Yes! Things you can actually do today.

Alex: Step one: build an output habit.

Luna: What does that mean?

Alex: It means you speak, every single day.

Alex: Even just one sentence is a win.

Luna: Like saying “I’m tired” in English instead of my language?

Alex: Exactly. You turn small moments into practice.

Luna: That’s so doable.

Alex: The key is consistency.

Alex: One sentence a day becomes ten.

Luna: I used to say one line while brushing my teeth.

Alex: Great example. Daily habits beat long, rare study sessions.

Luna: But what do I say if I don’t know what to talk about?

Alex: That’s where the next step helps: mimic and repeat.

Luna: Ah yes, my favorite—copy like a parrot.

Alex: It’s actually super effective.

Alex: Find a short sentence you understand.

Alex: Repeat it aloud, with the same rhythm and tone.

Luna: So like shadowing, but simpler.

Alex: Yes. Don’t stress about being perfect.

Alex: Just get the flow.

Luna: I did this with movie lines.

Alex: Perfect. You build muscle memory.

Luna: I noticed my speaking got smoother after one week.

Alex: That’s because your brain starts predicting sounds.

Luna: And it feels more natural over time.

Alex: Exactly. It’s how kids learn.

Alex: Hear, copy, repeat.

Luna: But I want to say my own stuff too.

Alex: Then let’s use interest to drive output.

Luna: Yes please! No boring drills.

Alex: Try a voice diary.

Alex: Record yourself talking about your day.

Luna: Ooh, I’ve done that!

Luna: I just hit record and talk about what I ate.

Alex: That’s great. You hear yourself and improve.

Luna: And no one hears it but me, so no pressure.

Alex: You can also create fake conversations.

Alex: Pretend you're ordering coffee.

Luna: “Hi, I’d like a latte, please.”

Alex: See? Natural and useful.

Luna: What if I mess up?

Alex: Good. That’s how you learn.

Luna: So the rule is: speak badly first, improve later.

Alex: Exactly. Start small. Repeat often.

Luna: Do what you enjoy.

Alex: Let English fit into your life.

Luna: Not the other way around.

Alex: One line a day.

Luna: One line closer to fluency.

Alex: Start now, not next week.

Luna: Your future self will thank you.

Alex: And we’re not done yet.

Luna: Let’s help you get ready for the real world.



Alex: So, we’ve talked about building habits.

Luna: And now it’s time to practice in real life.

Alex: Let’s start with everyday situations.

Luna: Like buying coffee or asking for directions?

Alex: Exactly. These are chances to simulate real talk.

Luna: Even if no one’s around, I still do it.

Alex: Yes, it’s called self-role-play.

Alex: You can say, “Excuse me, where is the train station?”

Luna: Or, “Can I have two tickets, please?”

Alex: You picture the moment and speak out loud.

Luna: Like acting out a scene.

Alex: Right. It helps reduce fear.

Luna: Because when it really happens, you’re ready.

Alex: You’ve already practiced the words.

Luna: I did this before a trip to Japan.

Alex: That’s smart. Language is for real life.

Luna: Even in my room, I would “shop” and “order food.”

Alex: These mini-scenes train your brain.

Luna: And it’s more fun than textbook drills.

Alex: The next step—record yourself.

Luna: Oh boy. I used to hate hearing my voice.

Alex: Everyone does at first.

Alex: But it’s one of the best ways to improve.

Luna: True. I noticed my weak points that way.

Alex: Like mispronounced sounds or weird pacing?

Luna: Yep. I’d say a sentence, then check the recording.

Alex: Then repeat until it sounded better.

Luna: I also compared my voice to native speakers.

Alex: Great method.

Alex: You can listen to podcasts or videos.

Luna: Then record the same line and match it.

Alex: Like a singing cover, but for speaking.

Luna: I like that!

Alex: This gives you instant feedback.

Luna: And you can track your progress over time.

Alex: Save clips, listen again next month.

Luna: You’ll be surprised how much you’ve improved.

Alex: Now, what if you want real feedback from people?

Luna: That’s where apps and language exchange come in.

Alex: There are great apps that match you with partners.

Luna: I used Tandem to find a speaking buddy.

Alex: I tried HelloTalk for a while.

Luna: The key is choosing someone who’s active.

Alex: And who wants to learn your language too.

Luna: So both sides help each other.

Alex: You can chat, send voice messages, even do video calls.

Luna: I had a partner from Canada.

Luna: We talked twice a week about music and food.

Alex: That’s perfect. Use topics you enjoy.

Luna: And don’t worry about grammar too much.

Alex: Just focus on making meaning clear.

Luna: Real talk is messy but real.

Alex: And very effective.

Luna: So remember—practice real scenes, record yourself, and connect with people.

Alex: These steps take you from shy to confident.

Luna: Start with one. Add the rest later.

Alex: And now, let’s handle some questions.

Luna: Time for the FAQ.




Luna: Now let’s move to some listener questions.

Alex: These are problems many English learners face.

Luna: Let’s take the first one.

Luna: “What if no one around me speaks English?”

Alex: That’s a big one.

Alex: You may not have English speakers nearby, but you can still practice.

Luna: I always say, the world is your classroom.

Alex: First, use English in your phone and apps.

Alex: Change the system language to English.

Luna: Then even scrolling becomes practice time.

Alex: Watch YouTube videos in English.

Luna: Use subtitles at first, then try without them.

Alex: You can also talk to yourself in English.

Luna: I do that while cooking or walking.

Alex: Say what you’re doing out loud.

Alex: “I’m boiling water.” “I’m cutting carrots.”

Luna: It may feel weird, but it helps.

Alex: If you want more real interaction, use language exchange apps.

Luna: You don’t need people nearby anymore.

Alex: Apps like HelloTalk, Tandem, or Speaky can help.

Luna: You can send voice notes, text, or call.

Alex: It’s like having a practice partner in your pocket.

Luna: Also, join English speaking groups online.

Alex: Facebook, Reddit, even gaming chats.

Luna: Anywhere you can use English counts.

Alex: The key is using English every day.

Luna: Even five minutes is a win.

Alex: Let’s go to the next question.

Luna: “Every time I want to speak English, my mind goes blank. What should I do?”

Alex: Ah, the blank mind moment.

Luna: So common. I’ve had that too.

Alex: It happens because of pressure.

Alex: You want to say something right, and your brain freezes.

Luna: So first, reduce the pressure.

Alex: Practice with yourself or with friends you trust.

Luna: Start with set phrases you use often.

Luna: Like “My name is...” or “I’m learning English.”

Alex: Write down answers to simple questions.

Alex: Then repeat them daily until they stick.

Luna: When you’re ready, do mini role-plays.

Alex: Pretend you’re ordering food or asking for help.

Luna: Practice that same script over and over.

Alex: The goal is fluency, not variety at first.

Luna: You’ll feel more ready next time.

Alex: Also, slow down your thinking.

Alex: It’s okay to pause before speaking.

Luna: Breathe, think, then talk.

Alex: Short sentences are fine.

Luna: You don’t have to explain everything.

Alex: Just get your point across.

Luna: Let’s take the third question.

Luna: “My pronunciation isn’t perfect. Will people still understand me?”

Alex: Yes, they will.

Alex: You don’t need to sound like a native.

Luna: Clarity is more important than perfection.

Alex: Many English speakers have different accents.

Alex: Indian English, Singapore English—they all sound different.

Luna: But they all communicate clearly.

Alex: That’s the goal.

Luna: Start by listening to how words are said.

Alex: Use tools like YouGlish or Forvo.

Luna: Or even Google Translate voice.

Alex: Then record your voice and compare.

Luna: It’s a simple but powerful method.

Alex: Don’t worry about small mistakes.

Alex: Focus on making each word clear.

Luna: Use apps that give feedback on pronunciation.

Alex: Speechling, Elsa, or shadowing with podcasts.

Luna: You’ll hear and fix your sounds naturally.

Alex: Over time, your accent becomes easier to understand.

Luna: Remember, English is for connection, not perfection.

Alex: As long as you keep trying, you’ll improve.

Luna: And most people are kind and patient.

Alex: That’s right. Don’t be afraid to speak.



Alex: Alright, that’s a wrap on today’s topic.

Luna: We talked about a lot, huh?

Alex: Yeah, we went from why people can’t speak English—

Alex: —to what they can do about it.

Luna: I loved the part about talking to yourself.

Luna: I do that every day!

Alex: And the part about using what you love to drive your practice.

Luna: Right! Language learning doesn’t have to be boring.

Alex: It should feel like part of your life.

Luna: If you like music, use music.

Alex: If you like games, use games.

Luna: If you like talking to yourself in the mirror—

Alex: Then be your own best audience.

Luna: For me, the biggest thing today was this:

Luna: You don’t need to be perfect.

Alex: You just need to start.

Luna: Even one sentence a day can change things.

Alex: And with time, that one sentence becomes ten.

Luna: Then a conversation.

Alex: Then a job interview.

Luna: Then maybe even a podcast!

Alex: Alright, now it’s your turn.

Luna: We want to hear from you.

Alex: What was your biggest problem when learning English?

Luna: And what helped you get better?

Alex: Or what are you still struggling with now?

Luna: Leave a comment below this video.

Alex: Don’t worry about grammar.

Luna: Just share your thoughts.

Alex: Someone else might read it and feel better.

Luna: Or learn something from you.

Alex: We’ll be checking the comments too.

Luna: Yeah! We always do.

Alex: Also, remember—

Alex: The full script for this episode is linked below.

Luna: It’s in the description box.

Alex: You can read and follow along anytime.

Luna: And we have subtitles too.

Alex: So turn on the CC if you need it.

Luna: One more thing—don’t forget to subscribe!

Alex: That way, you won’t miss future episodes.

Luna: And we’ll know you’re enjoying what we do.

Alex: That’s all for today’s Effortless English Podcast.

Luna: Thanks for hanging out with us.

Alex: Keep learning, keep speaking, and keep showing up.

Luna: You’ve got this.

Alex: See you next time!

Luna: Bye!

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